Posts by Anna Marina

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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish

by Anna Marina in

yes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.

that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.

well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.

Anna Marina

Hi ballistic

I was baptised in 1992, so I was a newbie to some of those older teachings. I was talking to one today who was brought up in this man-trap for Christians cult and he told me how he spoke to an elder and said, 'we are bringing people in through the front door then they go straight out the back door. It's all wrong. Why are people leaving?' The elder had no answer for him.

Sounds like elder's wife (in your comment) was trying to warn you but she was not allowed to be open with you. I remember the very clever comment of a District Overseer's wife. Regarding the organisation she said, 'respect it for what it is but don't take it too seriously.'

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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish

by Anna Marina in

yes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.

that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.

well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.

Anna Marina

Thank you Finkelstein. It wasn't until that 2005 talk that I realised something was so seriously wrong with their doctrine that it was a deal-breaker.

I had never understood their interpretation of presence. I understood about the 1914 calculation and was skeptical and challenged this elder and at least one other on it while I was still studing. I feel I was misled when the elder referred to in the video told me that 'if the GB have got anything wrong, they will correct it.'

Well he didn't tell me WHEN they'd correct it. Nor did he tell me that if I wrote to them pointing out a serious doctrinal error, they'd neither acknowledge they were wrong nor reply to me. I'd just get told, 'wait on Jehovah and don't talk to anyone about this.'

After this event in 2005/6, I found Ray Franz's website online and wrote to him about what had happened to me. He helped me to understand what was going on.

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Elder Confesses 50% is Rubbish

by Anna Marina in

yes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish.

that was in 2006. now in 2019 i have recently been thrown out of the watchtower organisation.

well here's a video i put together showing early events to do with this.. https://youtu.be/ak5hmazvufg.

Anna Marina

Yes an elder actually confessed to me that 50% he said from the platform was rubbish. That was in 2006. Now in 2019 I have recently been thrown out of the Watchtower organisation. Why? Well here's a video I put together showing early events to do with this.

https://youtu.be/Ak5hMAzvuFg

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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.

by Finkelstein in

yup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.

another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.

the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.

Anna Marina

Hi Smiddy - just saw your comment to me. How you pronounce the name of the God of Abraham depends on phonetics. For instance the name John, Ian, Jan, Evan, Ivan are all the same name. I think the J or Y issue comes in due to the German/English translations. Ju or Yu are very similar. Regarding V or W - the W in German is actually V.

In English if you say O, you can hear the W. Maybe in German the sound is OV.

When I've heard some rabbis pronounce the W in Hebrew I've hear them use the V sound rather than W.

On the subject of phonetics Ts can become Ds. Bs can become Vs, Ks can become Gs etc.

But the identity of the God of Abraham remains the same however you pronounce His name.

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The Jehovah's Witnesses religion is a pretentious fraud.

by Finkelstein in

yup that's right the jws religion is a pretentious fraud orchestrated by men running their own religious publishing house.. these men cultivated a semblance of power around themselves through their own propagation of being chosen by god or being more righteous than other christian leaders by their self supporting acclaim that they have truer and more accurate bible interpretations.

another known fact is these top leading men were not academically trained bible scholars.

the first leading executive writer of the wts was a professional clothing salesman/ businessman.

Anna Marina

Leading Watchtower people may not be scholars. You could say they are beyond scholars.They are psychologists, sociologists, rocket scientists and actors roled into one. Their stupidity is that they use all this to try to cover over self-evident lies by confusing people.

By reading the Bible and comparing its words to what they are saying, the lies eventually become clear to you.

Then, if you are concerned about sticking to what the Bible really says and challenge their authority, you get thrown out.

But not everything they teach is wrong and you have to be careful not to identify Jehovah with them because they'd love you to do that. It would be a victory for them, is as you leave, you abandon your faith in Jesus Christ and his Father, Jehovah.

Hi Smiddy, just saw you post, yes its sucks people's lives, resources and intelligence out of them.

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When is the AGM for this year?

by no-zombie in

i'm sure that the agm is in october but has a date for it been released?.

Anna Marina

Hi Blondie, even the Bible doesn't say October. It was the 2nd month, Ziv, which corresponds to April/May time. See Gen 7:11 and compare to 1 Ki 6:1.

But you easily change 2 into 8 by changing the calendar :) So suddendly Ziv becomes Tishrei. Which is exactly what they do in order to say the 2nd month is October.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyar

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KH sale resolution, alternative

by waton in

to the be read from the podium 2 weeks after the initial proposal, command from gb/branch :.

we the central hall*** congregation resolve, in the forced sale, that the hall at no.

1 first avenue *** be bought back from wtbt corp inc. and continue to be used by the current members.

Anna Marina

Sir82, you also need to go to a Kingdom Hall and give a talk. People don't just go to listen and be convinced, some go to enjoy a priviledged position and enjoy minor celebrity status. For this you need a Kingdom Hall.

I ask you to spare a thought for the poor elder who went to the Kingdom Hall to give his talk only to find he couldn't find the Hall. Why? Because it had been sold and knocked down.

Also, if you are going to cast Christians out of the synagogues, you need a synagogue.

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Yesterday's wt: No wonder jws don't get any results from their ministry

by nowwhat? in

all about teaching the bible and about god.

what about preaching the gospel of jesus?

there's only about a dozen scriptures that say christians are to bear witness about the christ that they ignore.

Anna Marina

Nicely put Finkelstein.

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shunning demonstration

by zeb in

jw
friends

iam informed of a public anti-shunning demo coming up in melbourne,australia.. more info as i get it..

Anna Marina

I was shunned four times yesterday. Once even by a special pioneer. I stood right in front of her and waited to see what she would do. And the only reason she refuses to speak to me is because I say that Dan 1:1 is talking about the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership. Not the 11th year of his rulership.

Oh and also the fact that the Co-ordinator of the Body of Elders used the platform to say that the special pioneer's trolley-mate's husband said I was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Once the CoBE got off the platform he said he had nothing to do with making that decision but just had to go along with it.

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Highlights from Book Studies: Other Sheep & Disfellowshipping

by neat blue dog in

a couple of highlights from recent "congregation bible studies" (book studies):.

in one chapter of the jesus book, they spin the part that disproves the "earthly hope" into saying the exact opposite of what is obvious:.

“most truly i say to you, i am the door for the sheep.

Anna Marina

I think they know exactly what they are saying. They are saying the faithful get disfellowshipped and they know it because that is what they are doing. Just look what happened to Ray Franz, let alone ones like myself and plenty of others.

They are also saying if you are a coward like the parents, shut up or else you get'll get chucked out. The Word of God is a double edged sword getting to the truth. The Watchtower is a double-barrel economic, psycho-sociological mind-trap threatening you to shut up and go along with a pack of lies. Abandon your intellect and integrity or else.